" You do it and can't read that because at. Your the only job of the art in the -- what happened was -- in the early ninety's in the future I'm gonna in the having dinner with people who were released early on parole and that's -- You are generally only doing one month per year you are your headlines gleaming. In -- right the main issue the only to a crime and one of the candidates man by the name of Bob -- It was several victims organizations. Thickly parents murdered children Monica arming and then programming -- and more did you. And we'd like to have an advocate and the mayor is office two -- victims right and the issues and her being a man of many many many were you are sure. And former -- probation now -- been doing some bought their work. With these organizations. Are now on a great shooter we're back and practically unheard out. And there was electrically formed a committee proposal are hardening -- one of them into our interview program. Had a number that matters if ever looked at Maine that. I'm saying -- to do so -- thank you need to do this kind of unique. Because it was like our colony or Carol Irish are gone hey were you guys do a -- and Emanuel and you read the manual out. It was a rare opportunity and built in from the ground floor and then not. Quite an honor and apply a newbie you'll ever carry on behalf Carter from an eighteen year."

" And you -- New on. Or was NN end or on on numerous occasions you're invited into those are. Arco -- worldwide actually good news rooms and and news."

" I think and written which leads me to -- and every every time your and it baffles me that there -- New York someone like you were Chicago or -- or or Angela or. You know Portland Oregon."

" the only -- I really -- I get our question a lot it is practically. -- really on her not to have somebody actually within government. -- wash our other government and he lives to tell."

" every guy again. -- I would that the new -- nutritionist and holy and parker administration. --"

" War well you know cleaning it till -- remain in or three matters much for so what happens -- and no matter what happens. You know I'm doing there and here we go from there and we try to take negative and turn them in a positive and try to restrict our. What's been your crime victim in Oakland makes -- doesn't have --"

" How -- Me and as one of many great things --"

" And you tell you one quick or are in Maryland her onetime Iowa are at everything I you can match and -- Americans -- and at one time. All. By anti generally. And the mayor you are a reporter and and are about the your -- being picketed in under through your comment you made -- goes look I don't -- content please criminal element."

" And now I -- them great lines and all time. Another topic that."

" Never failed to bring up when you are in audio because -- profile only a didn't meet in your personal life what you are. -- horrific murders of you lose a union and Jennifer are men. The -- quickly I think that are riddled with -- reported earlier in many many many years. And at the conclusion that trying in the convictions that followed. It is -- one can either yeah. Right many of more liberal leaning that I was indeed in favor of the death penalty or are you and how the ringleader of that operation Peter can do is up for August. Haven't you. There are minor fly in the ointment."

" Yeah I would be really shocked this one doesn't are further you know there's a major driver of all I and their country of Germany and -- Peter can't -- the death penalty but really there's not many there's really -- really. Left her dress like you might have happened in June of 1993. Regard on seventeen years in her -- her earnings -- computer camp. Live longer under a rose and the girls live on on the life. Mean is going to be kind of like on our modern day you record duty of course will be the third act Q. At the German in the Pena in my -- have gone up to witness. The third alas there you ever since I doubt where only muted -- you can -- years ago and determined that. And -- and -- no murder people are gonna be eligible corporal"

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" It no longer do you think about this carries is wonder if you may not only a new country that I can remember. By the victim now. When people when you wrote the -- pain these people know I know that time when I throw out names like. Ted Bundy -- are -- aren't eager for now we know it. I -- right because no one can name any victim. You are really connect Olympic. -- now. You mentioned the petition drive by many."

" And Italy strong anti death penalty proponent over -- so. Our men can't. Don't the death penalty law why do you know why these two in particular and and it didn't we before we early in the -- Leave another very anti death penalty. That -- who was only eighteen time -- you and -- as an -- meet later on when there are a prime he was eighteen at the time I you know aren't you -- young and immature and core nasty and we are all data are now 35 and of course he's maturity and yield on their position is he's no longer -- 100 no real reason. -- time and money on Arnold and her respective button and obviously your. We certainly believe in -- law and very hand in and we are do you carry out. Now I'm not all you haven't though will -- be clear. -- in your official of the is working or lose it in your are you actually even in. In like the front I the next night I event I am. Yeah I've been where these family I mean throughout trials where I've been without -- we're in this case there was."

" Catalyst allow Americans who were these donor give them a hallway. -- on the Internet can't thrown you know aren't really like to -- their money or use our candy mountain. For a no no -- your minions so politely and probably -- out. And in -- and Arabic and mainly are strictly prohibited mark. They along with -- other inmates from the only category of people not allowed ten. In new England and we thought it took about two years we do to you know aren't you don't and wouldn't want to take advantage our position was there should be in -- I cannot others to make more than -- and how -- about on the far out. -- have operative and how we doing the right."

" Another thing neither are you urge your fingers and are after the conclusion of many trials he's African and after and that the the the family and they. -- That'll about oh -- there was -- there -- younger -- trials and -- in the -- and I -- by the -- and I'm thinking about asking on the urban -- one you were there that is what do you thing I love it. Actually being -- thing -- that actually that was that was our -- and play her early years. But no one ever in -- Up until until that point nine member when we're probably -- you remember reindeer and yelling at computer and -- yeah and millions of course I wanna. Quite chilling even -- a person I was actually done. Courtroom her talent you know -- The -- again aren't gonna"

" of America. Hillary and weeks. Local any holes out. I'll tell us the conviction of a couple -- Who actually old money from -- in the arms are and -- now recalled they didn't regional and they've been ordered to Iraq mission. And they are all -- and who are buying shears on every Saturday and on our web."

" element to her record that might be a month or any jail time -- as a condition of their prevention. Were ordered to pay dark to read it to India and nervous and connect your on the weekend. On alternating -- both their early and has been on Daniel. Our luck and out in a parent cocoa are carrying -- and and what did you -- about the ultimate or you're gonna work. In the attorney's office -- a -- right worker. And for the past eight years on being knowing that anybody -- been pocketing."

" 257000. Dollar. Or go back to victim. Part of were ordered -- That -- On so I you know I mean. Is ordered a million dollar a lot of as a lot of money on ever -- a lot of money you are able to get away for a long you know. Quite frankly you know lack of and a Billy. In new director came in about a year ago and and and there are"

" many. Changes which eliminated and indeed your."

" Our way he you know -- taken an -- thing about all rookie in Marin who is not penalized defendant are actually doing it to be doing and mean are in restitution. Is rare for defendant I anywhere they recorded -- and finance and money into over her solution. It's a double on."

" Our attention -- or another era. Arrogant jerk broadly. There are there can -- so many. Folks who are given probation and and or their probation they ordered. An illusion that."

" And -- out look great and then there's everybody in our news you -- not conventionally. Pretty and all are holding had to pay back. Man a dollar back you're back to the Americans look good the reality is very. Little follow up and an often -- to and goes unpaid. And many are not fulfilled our probation."

" And and and one particular carry their -- again will be out for change and is involved."

" Eric Crawford who was convicted by a jury of first degree murder and on on. Three and they turnaround and gave him. Another crawled in another on another day in part of the conditions that prevent -- apparent Hardin family. I'll like my thousand dollar ever do and and do -- by another condition as well as well as earnings aren't. During the ten years our operations. There are prepared about 4200 dollars. Meaning that at the end of his probation which in 2010. He knows ardent. Over 161000 dollar the vote count over a thousand dollar in -- and thighs and failed -- about 400 community of -- You know on June 15 2000 and -- not to learn what to -- Even Harden who was murdered by a very Crocker are gonna mailbox. And get a letter from Nina probation department not address an ardent Stanley or even -- of course no longer whether they are not and it's a letter advising even Harden did very cropper who murdered who kill them. Fully completed is provide an interview every question about these. -- obvious even isn't around. Questioning but that was the ultimate below. Aren't coming you know. In addition to him fully you know how you access to complete revision. When you over a thousand dollars or 8000 -- you don't leave but yet he is -- clean out as a -- to -- with an -- That would other day do and one in particular error owner has -- very very great -- you get out there we incorporate. You're next on session and and later on they're allowed judges Greg -- and on probation who has not pay restitution back there. -- upon completion of the prevail and you Perez -- is not any unpaid barrel now become an oval lean. You -- where does go away by Dennis -- are very Crocker dark. There's nothing hardens and do not want to hire attorneys and you know going through emotions are double that and we need to incorporate."

" All right along with probably many folks in the audience right now or in the house. Who -- the all responsibility. Signing off on probation -- wearing -- Drudge is a probation department."

" Are we always. Tried to get who's actually visiting -- we tried yet in this particular we try to have no emotion revoked from a file last year. I think we were -- little late you know kind of coming in the last minute. Crocker -- showed an inability to pay duty some sort of medical illness but of course it or seven years part of that where he. I mean land after Harden can only get I'll never forget -- in January 2009. Sure to -- you -- or eight dollar money war."

" Or. More goals you have even knew it. Three dollar warning for that to them in the mail arteries"

" Her you know unless we start taking these -- you're gonna have you know more and more. The problem is we really can't find out how many other Crawford there are out there are -- numerous require I'm told. Remain confidential. Yet you know lead defendant's name I go down a look at the record. But because I -- lives of all probation or who to lead our prevention. Over the last early years who -- read a non -- that information. Is not really simple. It makes no -- again it just goes back to my favorite thing it won't -- logic. Are -- moron a term often have difficult -- many. And certainly living proof from. That I mean. The judge in violation of law."

" Now. But you're not gonna and Lee. Really. He didn't. Turn a probe I mean. I think you'd be shocked to find out"

" how often that happens the only."

" And right trying to trying to lie to them and you never again to throw out all sort of throw out all the life. We tried everything worked in the income tax rebate. Or mailed out earlier guard did have the judge agreed to ease. Any income tax rebate. Eric Crawford and hopefully other defendant when you are out there. We have a long way to garment to last time I looked and and switching over to know who -- on -- in Iraq should now any -- I. A great yet he did art. Again victim's American you're American you're garnered by us and that -- least -- occur in front of in at least try to offer on her remedy the problem is when you don't carry nothing happened."

" I'm giving you an. Impossible. -- actually put your -- your right now"

" in the course and while you and"

" he wouldn't probably give me -- religion. Out of being here and merit to his staff. After a lot of people. Caller for all of"

" the people Laura yeah. It."

" You Internet you respect -- all of our -- we're you know make the victim whole -- The defendant knew what court ordered to do and could become quite clear action failed to comply. And particularly carry nearly caught on -- regardless we we completed this provide. And Harden or are out and their -- or you might wonder who really were or."

" And he -- good morning Andy has one of the kind John"

" the only armed job of trying to in the united."

" A crime. Arabic either in a line and -- used and our earlier in the show you in their briefly the upcoming legislative ocean. I know have your fingers and hopefully a couple of changes that. A law. Would you -- or burial detail are."

" Where things we -- here and under or is involved that are pretty -- pro -- Particular Kerry defendants who were given away a -- year pretrial diversion. And the victim's family. We're awaiting surgery election. And then the next inning and now they get a call thing and it kind of deal. Now the problem with that is not -- barking problem is the victims weren't notified. Prior to that plea -- being -- private judge we're in blatant violation from my respect. Our congress and Miller right there they're entitled to know of any leading and told the family where you drew reader do agree. We can leave are you can't quite the fact that you were not even given notice or pretty. That's a plea deal was offered an -- the real crop. But the problem is it crime victims right -- the Jeremy your. They. Note there's no ramifications. Are no. -- And a great example looking at an analogy is defending -- in -- Everybody probably knows -- Miranda warning don't tying announcer if you're opera -- armor or whatever and I don't you know taken in the car you know don't give -- random warnings what happened in the case. Are -- Now what happens if aids victim is not -- her right crime there and one half. In my non starter to -- showed the difference in defendants' right and rightfully so. Protected content fighting the US car and while you'll -- victim right Ramirez -- So unless we have. The right crime victim at. At times likened marriage that -- told you guys -- gonna"

" get trampled."

" What you do with prominent. And I'm talking going beyond the mirror and or maybe even the governor of have you ever had -- the ear for a number somebody else out there in the White House over the years. Maybe in the presidential candidate from from either party and you're. -- and they're not. Now. Either that would be a win in public and no matter what -- you're coming down on the Republican or the Democrat politicians are always looking for a win in news. And I would guarantee that would be aware and -- an -- grapple with Dennis Carter"

" there. Are a theory on the mind."

" Because. As an average kid in order to enact. Some you have that Monsanto. And time goes -- back and fight back and usually those -- other government all entity. You got has only the Carolina ethnic yen. Recognizing that no matter what you do you're not gonna please everybody. In my spirit armor or are very good men do -- 100 years and Ayman Al refereeing -- game is doing my job and blow away all the marijuana call or are gonna likened. Yeah and -- no matter what. You've got to -- color -- think is right new color and you move on. I can't please every and I'm not going. You know a lot politicians wanna leave. Every. And ever on behalf of one faction -- law and -- eight. Another. Reality. But I think I'm out there you know and being -- a good guy and and are in the Mark -- and -- are bankrupt but yeah."

" Other bring up from getting a little"

" bit. But things that angered"

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" Story. And Torre are of are the people who many of the drug or ball. They denied -- they covered a leading and and and the whole bit and then you're into the Horry and the reporter go. And you know they're not really worried about army lines are actually welcomed because they've made -- billion dollars already. They're limited what they -- and out in my -- why. And you're not a lawyer -- era I know where maybe out of your area -- but why aren't people like that. -- Vision for our Dodi why are they not. How old criminal liability when people are -- because they withhold result. It don't make your drug."

" Cruiser and I mean you knowingly intentionally. And perpetrate fraud upon the American public you -- criminally liable. You're doing a major power. You know huge huge amount of corporations"

" and and big -- and big dollars."

" And you get -- they're willing you know to"

" Most people willingly go you know. I like it or not and something are either not many people out there -- that yelling screaming about in a world. Where all it back any you know allow"

" our you know that."

" I get man at. Thank you we're over we're there I'm -- near you know it's great you know -- when -- You know professional sports team win -- championship yet thousands of people during the month. You know one little children are brutally murdered -- we can -- eerily somebody who goes out and commit another crime or you know an elderly and get raped and wrangled in her own home -- them. In the -- ten area. There's no outrage why. I was a photo of me."

" It -- are going -- to -- was early in the with Ralph Nader will work. Four -- a little -- America I can add one other cars were -- loading up -- any kind of very rare impaired and it was that the Ford Motor Co. at that time. And deemed it. More doable you pay off we'll all who would be hurt the recalling all the cars. In -- in the problem. And by virtue of this one -- again all of our aren't in -- that -- out to be at risk that they're even the American public. Just another example when will we learn and when will we do a thing. Total company over coral are a possibility a public you know pretty record ruled in the and and in 45 years coming down on the -- the rumor -- little. Aren't you look at that are part in our record they come down and every."

" Nearly again -- probably is less than what I've found during my career and tenure there in the most -- in effect you only. Are you might get a little outrage you aren't knocking -- are involved and I think it's important. -- if you are not start or do you have a -- you get a lot more power than -- we do it back and we worry. And argue."

" be our victim advocate and you know the remaining complement the I know the thirty -- I'll bid up. The role of Ireland under your in the --"

" Here and he and I I get him I get a monthly report from -- or don't -- going kind of who's who come -- back to. -- in my -- report that Taylor on violent offenders offenders. -- robbers and murderers. And I think Google -- my we have tremendous spike are you do we would never cracked the over a hundred mark barrier. And months we -- it over three time. Your regular robbers torture victim -- because he weekly direct more havoc commuting and quite frankly than a murder and murder doesn't go ardent. Usually that murder"

" again. It's a one time."

" And Erin in the commission of another crime but rhetoric robbers are another story because they're usually your career or an amber getting all about fifty a month. Pickup artist and Barack and I got a other early release for only a -- Is being released on pro or another were being voted out as opposed the old mandatory rule. Where -- had to come out of luck. People are you being voted out. I think the re an accurate robbers release to release violent offender he's released then because. Quite frankly there is little -- public outcry heard from who commit tyrant -- are Ricans are corporal. As post on her murder which generate a tough time."

" And the artist handing if these are re violent offender parolees. From the an area and have been really roots I. Agree -- action -- you're --"

" And there are many convict a resident."

" Well we go over a lot of never dull never dull and boring a union at least -- Tell my family long time ago I'm -- a lot my -- Americans made -- much easier to do this job without tiger."

" And keep up your -- we always enjoy. Giving you IndyCar or Germany or. Well liked your point of the -- of the voice of the family who had a -- and become a victim of violent crime. I don't. Idea I wrote -- you briefly. Give me. Longest. He -- have only been out there were these these and emotionally draining grueling day you can ever imagine. Mark thank you I don't party of Clark and the spirit -- It is draining because it's like our -- yeah. I've never witness and a huge -- whenever I don't know -- I don't know I never hear -- not a pleasant short and aren't sure it is out there if it's a reminder of -- there and the reason why there as well well good work our. Yeah -- down the road or will probably and it's not a time or you're out. And good morning you're crime victim advocate for -- and -- somebody out there that -- your old little where your"

" Or more lower. Three. 3939. And later. We'll find your. Good work and you rent. -- on crime victim of the or. -- bullet thank you very. Program in your wishing for a few days ago."

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